AirTunes to AirPort Express

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Enable doubleTwist for Android to send my music to an AirPort Express using AirTunes / AirPlay, instead of just to Apple TV devices.

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Lucas (Official Rep) May 13, 2011 23:28

Support for Airport Express is not coming in the near future, as it is using the AirTunes subset of the AirPlay protocol -- which is the one that we currently support. We've updated the Market details for this app to reflect that statement.

AirTunes support is far more complex to implement as it involves accessing the raw audio stream for delivery via AirTunes and Android presently doesn't provide access to the raw audio for us to do this. We're investigating though.

Please let me know if you have further questions or concerns.
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Popple3 May 08, 2011 19:47

Got excited about the new AirSync, but once I realised it doesn't work with AirPort Express, I was very disappointed :(

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migzy May 08, 2011 18:23

agreed just bought airsync thinking that it would play to my airport express, please sort this out asap

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Guillaume Simard May 07, 2011 14:07

It should work considering that it is the same technology (AirPlay).. Right?

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It should work considering that it is the same technology (AirPlay).. Right?

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fry15 May 07, 2011 17:47

That's what I would have thought. Sadly not. My Apple TV shows up in the list, but not my Airport Expresses.

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That's what I would have thought. Sadly not. My Apple TV shows up in the list, but not my Airport Expresses.

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Guillaume Simard May 07, 2011 17:59

Well this an annoying limitation. I hope they fix this.

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Well this an annoying limitation. I hope they fix this.

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Michael McCarver May 07, 2011 18:32

Yeah, I finally figured out how to activate the speaker selection via swiping up on the screen, but airport express was not an option. Please fix. Also my HTC G2 doesn't seem to detect any airplay enabled servers. Sigh.

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Yeah, I finally figured out how to activate the speaker selection via swiping up on the screen, but airport express was not an option. Please fix. Also my HTC G2 doesn't seem to detect any airplay enabled servers. Sigh.

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migzy May 08, 2011 18:23

agreed just bought airsync thinking that it would play to my airport express, please sort this out asap

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agreed just bought airsync thinking that it would play to my airport express, please sort this out asap

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Popple3 May 08, 2011 19:47

Got excited about the new AirSync, but once I realised it doesn't work with AirPort Express, I was very disappointed :(

Would love AirPort Express support

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Got excited about the new AirSync, but once I realised it doesn't work with AirPort Express, I was very disappointed :( Would love AirPort Express support

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Michael Wolfe May 08, 2011 19:55

Yeah, huge bummer. Would be really great if this worked.

I mean, honestly, who owns an apple tv?

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  +1 to all the above. Have paid for Air Sync and was hoping to FINALLY be able to do this to an Airport networked sound system like my partner's iPhone can
  
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Yeah, huge bummer. Would be really great if this worked. I mean, honestly, who owns an apple tv?

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mstave May 09, 2011 16:20

+1 for Express Support. Saying you have "Airplay" support is bait and switch without it

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+1 for Express Support. Saying you have "Airplay" support is bait and switch without it

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mullemasterg May 09, 2011 16:28

I'll give you guys 3 days to fix Airport Support, if not I'm canceling my purchase

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I'll give you guys 3 days to fix Airport Support, if not I'm canceling my purchase

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aalasso May 09, 2011 16:41

I completely agree with mstave. Not mentioning APE is not supportet can only be considered misleading on purpose! BTW, there's a free alternative, that does stream ti APE: Twonky. Interface is not impressive, but it does work!

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I completely agree with mstave. Not mentioning APE is not supportet can only be considered misleading on purpose! BTW, there's a free alternative, that does stream ti APE: Twonky. Interface is not impressive, but it does work!

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Barry Craig May 09, 2011 17:44

refunded, only interested in Airport express compatibility.

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refunded, only interested in Airport express compatibility.

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Nick Graham May 09, 2011 19:37

I also purchased AirSync thinking it would allow me to play through my Airport Express - http://www.9to5mac.com/66066/android-...

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I also purchased AirSync thinking it would allow me to play through my Airport Express - http://www.9to5mac.com/66066/android-can-now-airplay-to-ios-devices/

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dottyvrai May 09, 2011 21:30

Wish I'd found this thread before purchase. And before my 15 minutes of refund were up.

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Wish I'd found this thread before purchase. And before my 15 minutes of refund were up.

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juergen.bleichrodt May 09, 2011 21:48

+1 Description sounded like ANY AirPlay device is supported, and, at least for me, the AirportExpress is an Airplay device.

Please refund or - way better - make it happen!!!

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+1 Description sounded like ANY AirPlay device is supported, and, at least for me, the AirportExpress is an Airplay device. Please refund or - way better - make it happen!!!

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lars May 11, 2011 17:06

I have the same problem!

I only buy it for streaming to the airport express.

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I have the same problem! I only buy it for streaming to the airport express.

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growlerbearnz May 11, 2011 22:33

Same here- perhaps a big disclaimer pointing out that doubleTwist for Android won't send music to Airport Express? It can take more than the 15 minute refund period just to set up and get synchronised- very disappointed here. At least it was cheap.

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Same here- perhaps a big disclaimer pointing out that doubleTwist for Android won't send music to Airport Express? It can take more than the 15 minute refund period just to set up and get synchronised- very disappointed here. At least it was cheap.

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Jaren Roke May 12, 2011 01:58

I'll buy this the moment Airport express is supported. Can anyone at double twist at least comment on whether it is an approved project or not?

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I'll buy this the moment Airport express is supported. Can anyone at double twist at least comment on whether it is an approved project or not?

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m.reinacher May 12, 2011 12:22

i purchased this b/c of AirPlay to AEx support. This is most annoying. DoubleTwist: please comment ASAP on when this is going to be implemented.

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i purchased this b/c of AirPlay to AEx support. This is most annoying. DoubleTwist: please comment ASAP on when this is going to be implemented.

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Nate Krulish May 13, 2011 01:47

I have speakers set up around the house. Each of them connected to an Airport express. I can thump from my mac but not from my Droid. Had to download an app that lets me control my Mac from my droid which runs iTunes. Seems very inefficient.

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I have speakers set up around the house. Each of them connected to an Airport express. I can thump from my mac but not from my Droid. Had to download an app that lets me control my Mac from my droid which runs iTunes. Seems very inefficient.

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Lucas (Official Rep) May 13, 2011 23:28

Support for Airport Express is not coming in the near future, as it is using the AirTunes subset of the AirPlay protocol -- which is the one that we currently support. We've updated the Market details for this app to reflect that statement.

AirTunes support is far more complex to implement as it involves accessing the raw audio stream for delivery via AirTunes and Android presently doesn't provide access to the raw audio for us to do this. We're investigating though.

Please let me know if you have further questions or concerns.

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Support for Airport Express is not coming in the near future, as it is using the AirTunes subset of the AirPlay protocol -- which is the one that we currently support. We've updated the Market details for this app to reflect that statement. AirTunes support is far more complex to implement as it involves accessing the raw audio stream for delivery via AirTunes and Android presently doesn't provide access to the raw audio for us to do this. We're investigating though. Please let me know if you have further questions or concerns.

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Jean-Paul Imbert May 23, 2011 13:41

This is being done by Airfoil on W7 or MacOs, too bad you don't support
Airport Express, I need this app before buying an android tablet.
Please let us know if you start doing it..

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This is being done by Airfoil on W7 or MacOs, too bad you don't support Airport Express, I need this app before buying an android tablet. Please let us know if you start doing it..

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aalasso May 23, 2011 13:51

@Lucas: *playing the world's tiniest violin*
As I wrote before: Twonky already does it on Android. Why can't you?

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  Twonky wrote some of the underlying technology that Android uses and thus had a bit of a headstart on this particular functionality.
  
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@Lucas: *playing the world's tiniest violin* As I wrote before: Twonky already does it on Android. Why can't you?

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davesteiger June 02, 2011 11:55

Cannot see Apple TV neither... however, works just fine on itunes. Maybe I should rather stick with Apple products :-(

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Cannot see Apple TV neither... however, works just fine on itunes. Maybe I should rather stick with Apple products :-(

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stanpetkar July 17, 2011 18:02

Terrible to see that I'm not the only one who was tricked into buying this app whilst
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Website suggests otherwise.

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  Stan, the Market listing actually notes: "Stream videos, photos and music to your Apple TV (black model) with Twist ToTM (AirPort Express is not yet supported)" and has since a day or two after we launched the feature.
  
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Terrible to see that I'm not the only one who was tricked into buying this app whilst airport Express is not support. Website suggests otherwise.

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1canynge July 21, 2011 20:16

Agree - please add Airport Express!

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kevinzolitor July 23, 2011 04:07

Somehow it's also out in the media explicitly... http://9to5mac.com/2011/05/09/android...

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Somehow it's also out in the media explicitly... http://9to5mac.com/2011/05/09/android-can-now-airplay-to-ios-devices/ Very disappointing,

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Tim Forbes July 24, 2011 11:47

lucas, any update on when this app will stream to airport express? i bought it for sole purpose of this streaming functionality only to find it doesn't exist.

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lucas, any update on when this app will stream to airport express? i bought it for sole purpose of this streaming functionality only to find it doesn't exist.

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filografen July 28, 2011 16:22

Dealbreaker for me. Just bought it since I was sure it could play over APE. Refund for me untill fixed.

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Dealbreaker for me. Just bought it since I was sure it could play over APE. Refund for me untill fixed.

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Lucas (Official Rep) July 28, 2011 18:23

@Tim Forbes: We don't have any immediate plans. Please contact me at support at doubletwist dot come to discuss further.

@filografen: Please contact me at support at doubletwist dot come to discuss further.

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@Tim Forbes: We don't have any immediate plans. Please contact me at support at doubletwist dot come to discuss further. @filografen: Please contact me at support at doubletwist dot come to discuss further.

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ianklinger10 August 25, 2011 19:56

So what can you actually stream to? PS3 and Xbox?

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  In addition to the PS3 and XB360, The 2nd generation Apple TV (black) is supported.
  
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thierry.schwegler August 25, 2011 22:36

How do I get the speaker selection ?
Michael McCarver talked about Swiping the screen up .. I am swiping, but not selection comes. Althought I have an Apple TV 2 on the network ...

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Lucas (Official Rep) August 26, 2011 01:29

Thierry,

You should see an additional icon in your play control bar when a device is detected on your network that can be streamed to. When your ANdroid device and your Apple TV 2 are on the same network, are you not seeing this additional icon (it looks kind of like a WiFi icon).

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Thierry, You should see an additional icon in your play control bar when a device is detected on your network that can be streamed to. When your ANdroid device and your Apple TV 2 are on the same network, are you not seeing this additional icon (it looks kind of like a WiFi icon). Lucas

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mastakony August 31, 2011 13:31

I need to put my ipod touch in the bin but I need doubletwist work (airsync) with my airport express and even my freebox revolution (air media)

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I need to put my ipod touch in the bin but I need doubletwist work (airsync) with my airport express and even my freebox revolution (air media) Samsung galaxy S2 Regards

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geruisloos September 02, 2011 08:36

Airport Express support +1

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lionel September 02, 2011 20:39

yes like mastakony, I trying to find solution to diffuse music via airplay on my freebox revolution. But airtwist do not detect my freebox server why, please help me ?

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yes like mastakony, I trying to find solution to diffuse music via airplay on my freebox revolution. But airtwist do not detect my freebox server why, please help me ?

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r.floydwalker September 13, 2011 17:58

Absolutely!!
This was the reason I purchased Airsync. I don't even own an Apple TV. I feel that it could have been made more clear that Airport Express isn't supported as I'm sure more people have an old Airport Express knocking around than an Apple TV.
Looks like its back to my old ipod if I want to stream with out the PC burning through the electric bill.

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  Hello,
  
  We certainly don't intend to mislead anyone so any suggestions would be welcomed.
  
  Currently the listing in the Android Market says:
  
  "Stream videos, photos and music to your Apple TV (black model) with Twist ToTM (AirPort Express is not yet supported)"
  
  How should we change this?
  
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- r.floydwalker September 14, 2011 07:37
  
  I'm so sorry.
  I purchased in a hurry and obviously didn't take the time to read the description properly. Which I should have done. (I was actually quite excited to use my Defy to stream my podcasts while doing the washing up and just clicked the in app purchase button straight away).
  Again, please except my humble apologies.
  
  But I do also hope that we can get this functionality soon.
  
  Best Regards
  Rick
  
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- knutheng October 27, 2011 07:11
  
  Hello!
  Just a question about when it could be expected?
  Patience is a virtue! But about how long....
  
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- Henry Kwan (Official Rep) October 27, 2011 18:49
  
  Hello,
  
  We are still looking into this with no time table available. The issue is that it's not a simple tweak as the Airport Express and Apple TV rely on two different technologies.
  
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Absolutely!! This was the reason I purchased Airsync. I don't even own an Apple TV. I feel that it could have been made more clear that Airport Express isn't supported as I'm sure more people have an old Airport Express knocking around than an Apple TV. Looks like its back to my old ipod if I want to stream with out the PC burning through the electric bill.

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gfiumara October 27, 2011 14:21

I'd love to see this feature as much as anyone else in this forum, however I think it's more likely we'll see an updated AirPort Express that supports the current AirPlay spec rather than the older AirTunes spec. It's probably just not worth the developer's time to implement AirTunes unfortunately.

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I'd love to see this feature as much as anyone else in this forum, however I think it's more likely we'll see an updated AirPort Express that supports the current AirPlay spec rather than the older AirTunes spec. It's probably just not worth the developer's time to implement AirTunes unfortunately.

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r.floydwalker October 27, 2011 17:05

If you are right then thats a shame when you consider that both my IOS 5 devices can still stream to my old airport express units as well as to an Apple TV.

Just because Apple releases an updated product it doesn't mean that the older units that everyone owns stop working and become redundant. If anything building in support for older devices is a way of maintaining the usefulness of your product for a lot more potential customers. In fact I don't know anyone with an Apple TV but I know a lot of Airport owners and I don't think that supporting a piece of software on an android phone is enough of an incentive for people to upgrade to a new Airport Express if their current wireless network is working for them on all other levels.

People change their phones a lot more often than any other product. It was very easy for me to sell my Defy on eBay and purchase an old iphone 3gs to get back the airport streaming that I and a lot of others are used to.

Hmm..my reply to your post seems to have become a rant towards DoubleTwist. Sorry about that :)

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- Michael McCarver October 27, 2011 21:25
  
  That is a terrible argument. Of course your iOS devices stream perfectly. Its apples own protocol. The doubletwist guys are correct, the only way to stream from android to aiport express that I've found is the honey music player app in the android market and that sets up a direct link from the phone to the airport express. Doubletwist streamsthrough the wifi connection but it has to switch protocols while in the network to hit the express.
  
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If you are right then thats a shame when you consider that both my IOS 5 devices can still stream to my old airport express units as well as to an Apple TV. Just because Apple releases an updated product it doesn't mean that the older units that everyone owns stop working and become redundant. If anything building in support for older devices is a way of maintaining the usefulness of your product for a lot more potential customers. In fact I don't know anyone with an Apple TV but I know a lot of Airport owners and I don't think that supporting a piece of software on an android phone is enough of an incentive for people to upgrade to a new Airport Express if their current wireless network is working for them on all other levels. People change their phones a lot more often than any other product. It was very easy for me to sell my Defy on eBay and purchase an old iphone 3gs to get back the airport streaming that I and a lot of others are used to. Hmm..my reply to your post seems to have become a rant towards DoubleTwist. Sorry about that :)

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r.floydwalker November 01, 2011 16:09

Why is this a terrible argument?
Just because Apple relys on customers updating their hardware to sell more goods does not mean that alternative software producers have to concede to that model and only support the latest and greatest.
My argument was that by making your product support older hardware that is already established in people homes that your are making your product useful to a wider customer base.
Thanks for the heads up on the Honey music player though.

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Why is this a terrible argument? Just because Apple relys on customers updating their hardware to sell more goods does not mean that alternative software producers have to concede to that model and only support the latest and greatest. My argument was that by making your product support older hardware that is already established in people homes that your are making your product useful to a wider customer base. Thanks for the heads up on the Honey music player though.

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mortheus January 02, 2012 00:25

C'mon guys! I've also just paid $5 for the AirSync upgrade given the Doubletwist Android Market representation that this allows me to stream via my wifi network and Airplay. It says nowhere obvious that it does not support Apple Airport Express, until I have bought this useless software and then discovered this discussion thread! Please do better and provide the Airport Express support!

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- Henry Kwan (Official Rep) January 04, 2012 00:36
  
  Hello,
  
  AirTunes is completely different from AirPlay so it will necessitate completely new code for Airport Express support. This is something that we're looking into but because it's so different, it's not going to be a quick release.
  
  In the Android Market, it says:
  
  • Stream videos, photos and music to your Apple TV (black model) with Twist ToTM (AirPort Express is not yet supported)
  
  How would you like this changed to better represent the fact that the Airport Express is not supported?
  
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- mortheus January 04, 2012 14:57
  
  Hi Henry,
  
  Now DT does not even launch on my ASUS TF101. It blacks out and freezes. I seriously want my money back please. Thanks.
  
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  Hello,
  
  Please send us the Android log from your device so we can further diagnose this issue.
  
  You can do this by installing a log reader application such as this one:
  
  https://market.android.com/details?id...
  
  After installation, try to launch doubleTwist, save the log, and email it to us at:
  
  support at doubletwist.com
  
  Subject: TF101 crash
  
  Please also send us your Google Checkout/Wallet receipt.
  
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C'mon guys! I've also just paid $5 for the AirSync upgrade given the Doubletwist Android Market representation that this allows me to stream via my wifi network and Airplay. It says nowhere obvious that it does not support Apple Airport Express, until I have bought this useless software and then discovered this discussion thread! Please do better and provide the Airport Express support!

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bdawe44 January 04, 2012 04:06

Also disappointed. May have to go back to iPhone.
Cheers.

Otherwise, your product is excellent.

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Also disappointed. May have to go back to iPhone. Cheers. Otherwise, your product is excellent.

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Christian Fruehling February 04, 2012 13:41

GET IN CONTACT WITH THE GUYS FROM HONEY PLAYER...
AIRPLAY IS AIRPORT EXPRESS !!!

MY GUESS 80% OF THE AIRPLAY USERS GOT AN APE AND 20% AN APTV, SO FIX THIS!

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GET IN CONTACT WITH THE GUYS FROM HONEY PLAYER... AIRPLAY IS AIRPORT EXPRESS !!! MY GUESS 80% OF THE AIRPLAY USERS GOT AN APE AND 20% AN APTV, SO FIX THIS!

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imailjohn April 07, 2012 19:15

PISSED OFF.

marketplace states airplay which is very misleading, SHOULD state APPLE TV using the generic term of airplay leads the user to believe that it will work with any apple wireless device including the airport express. very disappointed to NOT find my express in the list of devices, and then finding out I wasted $5.00

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- imailjohn April 07, 2012 19:17
  
  PS, How do I go about getting my money back???
  
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  Complain via Google Marketplace feedback and get your money back. I did and succeeded.
  
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  Hello imailjohn,
  
  I'm sorry that you thought the AirPort Express was supported but in the Google Play Store, it specifically says that the AE isn't supported yet.
  
  https://play.google.com/store/apps/de...
  
  "♬ Stream music, videos and photos to devices such as Xbox, PS3, Sonos, and Apple TV (black model; AirPort Express not yet supported)."
  
  Please use the Play Store order feedback mechanism to send us a note.
  
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PISSED OFF. marketplace states airplay which is very misleading, SHOULD state APPLE TV using the generic term of airplay leads the user to believe that it will work with any apple wireless device including the airport express. very disappointed to NOT find my express in the list of devices, and then finding out I wasted $5.00 Angry.

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robjsaw April 08, 2012 17:48

Airport Express support would be brilliant, but I cant complain - I bought knowing it wasnt there!

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Airport Express support would be brilliant, but I cant complain - I bought knowing it wasnt there!

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Jason Fisher May 12, 2012 23:52

i would buy this if it had airport express support

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i would buy this if it had airport express support

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Gregory Diamant June 08, 2012 15:11

not YET supported
means can be?
When
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not YET supported means can be? When thxs

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Lucas (Official Rep) June 08, 2012 18:06

Gregory,

I don't have an ETA to give you on that, unfortunately.

Lucas

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Gregory, I don't have an ETA to give you on that, unfortunately. Lucas

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cixel@hotmail.com June 14, 2012 21:53

Does the NEWLY released Airport express work out of the box as 'true' airplay that is DoubleTwist compatible, or is it still relying on 'airtunes' implementation?

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  Hello,
  
  As far as I am aware, the Airport Express still uses AirTunes so doubleTwist Player is not compatible with it.
  
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